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Mike Glace
Posted: Feb 25, 2006 10:10 PM
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Can someone help me out 9,500 sq ft 5.5 inches thick on all perimeter walls,and basement ceiling, 10 inches attic directly to underside of roof 4000 sq ft. Thats a total of 13,500 sq ft easily accesible no nightmare problems with job. Is this job sprayable with half pound foam for $14,900 U guys tell me. I calculated material costs and fuel and labor for a four man crew and I can not even think about doing the job for that.
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Posted: Feb 25, 2006 11:36 PM
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me neither |
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Mike Glace
Posted: Feb 26, 2006 12:14 AM
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I put a initial bid for $25,000.00 The owner came back said some company gave hima bid for $14,900.00 I said WOW I think thats impossible so I went back and gave Final bid of $2,1330.00 Thats it thats the final bid no lower and the only reason I went that low was because I dont have much overhead. |
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Posted: Feb 26, 2006 06:40 AM
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lets consider the math.. 9500 @ 5.5"= 52250 brd ft of foam 4000 @ 10" = 40000 brd ft of foam so, with a 10% waste in the sidewalls and attic lid, lets use 100000 brd ft of foam for this dialoge. it the foam cost you $2000 for a kit, and it covers 15000 ft a kit it is costing you $13,300 for the material alone (assumeing the 15K yield number is accurate, i use 13K for my estimates so the odds stay in my favor). 15000 brd ft @ $2000 a kit = $0.133/brd ft cost of material 100000 brd ft @ $14900 bid = $0.149/brd ft bid for this job. so who really can apply for a penny a foot? me thinks you were being "worked" by the owner. maybe he was giving you 1/2 truths,,like the $14.9K is for cellulose or fiberglass,,,foam no way... so he has a $14,9k bid,,,tell him to take it, do not comprimise your bid quote.. stand back and watch the competition go broke... it is just a matter of time...you did not pull the figures you use out of the air,,they represent real numbers for a REAL business to operate and a reasonable rate of return on your investment. need more coffee,,,more later.. |
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Lane Hogstad
Posted: Jun 09, 2006 10:47 PM
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How do you deal with the competition bidding jobs when he tells customers that 2 inches of 2 lb is all you need in walls and 3 inches in the roof. R-19 is still r-19 isnt it or did I miss something. I'm just starting out but I want my people to get the best. LLH |
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Gerry Wagoner
Posted: Jun 11, 2006 10:33 AM
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:) Material cost is at least $12,500. A contractor will "pay to be there" at 14900. Foolish. The owner will get cheated and the contractor will too (self inflicted). Lose-lose situation. 2" of rigid is adequate in some climates. It used to be that 2.5" was the sweet spot. The ungodly price of 245 fa foams drove that sweet spot down to 2". The customer is the one who loses in this scene. There are some foam alternatives coming on the market and they are badly needed. 1.6 pound rigid (R-6.9), and 1.2 pound water blown @ R-5. Take a look at them to place value back into your business. They work well. gcw |
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Dave Strnad
Posted: Jun 12, 2006 07:08 AM
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Olger, I keep hearing the same thing that you said, but I have not found that those foams are cheaper. I am trying to find a supplier right now and have talked to more than I care to list. Most of which still haven't sent me anything. Anyway so far it seems that from the qoutes that I have gotten, the 245 have been cheaper than the water blown 1.2-1.6 lb foams and claim a higher bdft coverage. Where can I find these at a good price? |
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Timothy Sonney
Posted: Jun 12, 2006 09:00 PM
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100,000 board feet - we would send them a quote of $42,000.00 - this would cover our material, fuel, labor, insurance, etc. |
