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steven argus Posted: Apr 06, 2011 10:50 AM	Iso knife safety One of my guys just went to the ER. Very bad cut on hand w/ an Iso knife. Handle fell of while he was using it. He cannot make a fist now. We are now going to use cut resistant gloves when using these knifes. Anyone using these gloves? Or recomend a certain brand/type? Thanks.
Brian Bothun Posted: Apr 06, 2011 11:07 AM	I gotta ask, what exactly is a iso knife
steven argus Posted: Apr 06, 2011 11:18 AM	36" long serated hand knife, used to trim OC foam. VERY sharp!
John Cottle Posted: Apr 06, 2011 07:11 PM	Hatch makes an awesome cut resistant glove. They are a little pricey, but not as bad as an ER visit.
quentin Posted: Apr 06, 2011 07:35 PM	You may also want to look at galls.com for some. They are a police and public safety supply company and have gloves made to withstand needles, knive or etc.
steven argus Posted: Apr 06, 2011 09:55 PM	Thanks guys, I'll look at these. Just an update: He cut through 3 tendons. Cannot move three fingers. The first doc said he wont have use of his pinky. I feel absolutely horrible. And to think, a small investment of a few bucks on the cut resistant gloves and I wouldn't be posting this. These saws are an excellent tool. But like all tools, safety first. We do have comp and disability insurance. Comp is covering all medical bills and drugs. Disability will cover about 65% of his pay. I will cover the rest. This bad situation would be a whole lot worse if I was paying him cash. Somthing to think about.
Daniel X Posted: Apr 07, 2011 01:02 AM	Sounds terrible, sorry to hear. I'm glad I only need to use a little utility blade to trim the odd area on my work, the foam planers, huge sawzall blades and other extremely dangerous tools you 1/2lb. guys use make me cringe...
Bryan Kwater Posted: Apr 07, 2011 11:28 AM	That is awful news. Luckily you have all your needed insurances. Some of our local competition pay their guys cash so they can skip the workers comp. insurance. One mishap like this would REALLY turn into a nightmare. Doctors can do some amazing things, so hopefully he heals up good.
John Shockney Posted: Apr 10, 2011 06:07 PM	Those long sharp knives scared me a long time ago and the thought of one on the end of a sawz-all is even scarier. We use a modified hand saw with a concrete trowel handle on it. Airpro
Posted: Apr 11, 2011 03:38 AM	airpro.. the handle the guy was holding onto,, into which the blade was an integral part,,,fell apart in his clenched grip hand,,,resulting,,obvioulsy,,in laceractions to skin and tendons and schtuff,,,, the blade on the sazall is kinda like any other sazall blade,,,its out there beyond the nose piece,,,and you dont hold the tool out on the blade,,,you keep both hands on the tool,,and there is this little tab thingy that folds down as well to keep your forward hand from sliding forward off the nose piece,,, now that quickplane,,thats a scarey piece of machinery,,,lol,,
steven argus Posted: Apr 11, 2011 07:58 AM	The main reason for my post was just to vent. This has really affected me. I consider this employee a friend, and now he may have a problem with his hand for the rest of his life. He is 20 yrs old. The other reason to post is bring attention to jobsite safety. We became very relaxed about safety and a friend became injured because of that. I take full responsibility. Don't let this happen to you. Safety first. Thank you.
Posted: Apr 11, 2011 08:44 PM	Hey Guiness I hope all is well. I spent the first 18 years of my adult life in the tuna business. I spent nearly every day of those 18 years with either a 12" razor sharp Dexter Russel for grading Bluefin, Bigeyes and Yellowfins or a 30" Loin fillet knife. I cut myself 100's of times of the course of a year every year. Whether it was a nick or to the bone, I still have the scars to prove. One thing I can promise you is that bones don't grow back, tendons can be re-attached and feeling can and will come back even on cuts all the way to the bone. It took 10 years to regain 100% feeling in my last three fingers on my left hand. I still had control, could still do what I wanted, but was numb for the first year before I really started to get feeling back. I wear the scars proudly of a cold down in January when I didn't want to be at work as a cold front was bearing down on us and temps were dropping 10 degrees an hour every hour. Anyone that has ever handled 120 pound yellowfins will know that they are hitting the dock at 33-35 Degrees tops and we don't wear gloves to grade. All it takes is a slip of the knife to ruin your day, month, year or life. I can't overstate the importance of being careful to all of the young guys that come along on the job. All it takes is once! I hope he does well and heals up quickly. 65% isnt a lot, but at least it something. Steve
quentin Posted: Apr 12, 2011 10:43 AM	Man, I would feel bad too! My guys all know that I will be all over them about safety constantly and they yell at me too when I drop the ball on it. Yeah, they get to yell at the boss when it comes to safety. That is always a free pass for them and it also is a morale booster since they can yell at me just like I yell at them at times. I kept trying to post a couple of glove options I found but somehow it kept crashing so there is a link on the left for you to look at as an option.
Posted: Apr 13, 2011 06:51 PM	("bones don't grow back",,,repectfully,,,just aint true)
chad harris Posted: Aug 25, 2011 10:21 PM	That is horrible, did you have him drug tested? Just sayin.
steven argus Posted: Aug 26, 2011 10:31 PM	The thought never crossed my mind. We don't hire low lifes... just sayin.

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steven argus

Posted: Apr 06, 2011 10:50 AM

Iso knife safety

One of my guys just went to the ER. Very bad cut on hand w/ an Iso knife. Handle fell of while he was using it. He cannot make a fist now. We are now going to use cut resistant gloves when using these knifes. Anyone using these gloves? Or recomend a certain brand/type? Thanks.

Brian Bothun

Posted: Apr 06, 2011 11:07 AM

I gotta ask, what exactly is a iso knife

steven argus

Posted: Apr 06, 2011 11:18 AM

36" long serated hand knife, used to trim OC foam. VERY sharp!

John Cottle

Posted: Apr 06, 2011 07:11 PM

Hatch makes an awesome cut resistant glove. They are a little pricey, but not as bad as an ER visit.

quentin

Posted: Apr 06, 2011 07:35 PM

You may also want to look at galls.com for some. They are a police and public safety supply company and have gloves made to withstand needles, knive or etc.

steven argus

Posted: Apr 06, 2011 09:55 PM

Thanks guys, I'll look at these.

Just an update:

He cut through 3 tendons. Cannot move three fingers. The first doc said he wont have use of his pinky. I feel absolutely horrible. And to think, a small investment of a few bucks on the cut resistant gloves and I wouldn't be posting this. These saws are an excellent tool. But like all tools, safety first.

We do have comp and disability insurance. Comp is covering all medical bills and drugs. Disability will cover about 65% of his pay. I will cover the rest. This bad situation would be a whole lot worse if I was paying him cash. Somthing to think about.

Daniel X

Posted: Apr 07, 2011 01:02 AM

Sounds terrible, sorry to hear.

I'm glad I only need to use a little utility blade to trim the odd area on my work, the foam planers, huge sawzall blades and other extremely dangerous tools you 1/2lb. guys use make me cringe...

Bryan Kwater

Posted: Apr 07, 2011 11:28 AM

That is awful news. Luckily you have all your needed insurances. Some of our local competition pay their guys cash so they can skip the workers comp. insurance. One mishap like this would REALLY turn into a nightmare. Doctors can do some amazing things, so hopefully he heals up good.

John Shockney

Posted: Apr 10, 2011 06:07 PM

Those long sharp knives scared me a long time ago and the thought of one on the end of a sawz-all is even scarier.

We use a modified hand saw with a concrete trowel handle on it.

Airpro

Posted: Apr 11, 2011 03:38 AM

airpro..
the handle the guy was holding onto,, into which the blade was an integral part,,,fell apart in his clenched grip hand,,,resulting,,obvioulsy,,in laceractions to skin and tendons and schtuff,,,,
the blade on the sazall is kinda like any other sazall blade,,,its out there beyond the nose piece,,,and you dont hold the tool out on the blade,,,you keep both hands on the tool,,and there is this little tab thingy that folds down as well to keep your forward hand from sliding forward off the nose piece,,,
now that quickplane,,thats a scarey piece of machinery,,,lol,,

steven argus

Posted: Apr 11, 2011 07:58 AM

The main reason for my post was just to vent. This has really affected me. I consider this employee a friend, and now he may have a problem with his hand for the rest of his life. He is 20 yrs old.

The other reason to post is bring attention to jobsite safety. We became very relaxed about safety and a friend became injured because of that. I take full responsibility.

Don't let this happen to you. Safety first. Thank you.

Posted: Apr 11, 2011 08:44 PM

Hey Guiness

I hope all is well. I spent the first 18 years of my adult life in the tuna business. I spent nearly every day of those 18 years with either a 12" razor sharp Dexter Russel for grading Bluefin, Bigeyes and Yellowfins or a 30" Loin fillet knife. I cut myself 100's of times of the course of a year every year. Whether it was a nick or to the bone, I still have the scars to prove.

One thing I can promise you is that bones don't grow back, tendons can be re-attached and feeling can and will come back even on cuts all the way to the bone.

It took 10 years to regain 100% feeling in my last three fingers on my left hand. I still had control, could still do what I wanted, but was numb for the first year before I really started to get feeling back. I wear the scars proudly of a cold down in January when I didn't want to be at work as a cold front was bearing down on us and temps were dropping 10 degrees an hour every hour. Anyone that has ever handled 120 pound yellowfins will know that they are hitting the dock at 33-35 Degrees tops and we don't wear gloves to grade.

All it takes is a slip of the knife to ruin your day, month, year or life. I can't overstate the importance of being careful to all of the young guys that come along on the job. All it takes is once!

I hope he does well and heals up quickly. 65% isnt a lot, but at least it something.

Steve

quentin

Posted: Apr 12, 2011 10:43 AM

Man, I would feel bad too! My guys all know that I will be all over them about safety constantly and they yell at me too when I drop the ball on it. Yeah, they get to yell at the boss when it comes to safety. That is always a free pass for them and it also is a morale booster since they can yell at me just like I yell at them at times.

I kept trying to post a couple of glove options I found but somehow it kept crashing so there is a link on the left for you to look at as an option.

Posted: Apr 13, 2011 06:51 PM

("bones don't grow back",,,repectfully,,,just aint true)

chad harris

Posted: Aug 25, 2011 10:21 PM

That is horrible, did you have him drug tested? Just sayin.

steven argus

Posted: Aug 26, 2011 10:31 PM

The thought never crossed my mind. We don't hire low lifes... just sayin.

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